Thursday, November 18, 2010

Telemachus

My Impression of Telemachus is a boy, who would do anything to prove to his father and mother that he is anything of a boy. But also by trying to prove that he is mature and now a man, in a sense he is actually proving himself wrong. That kind of act, is nothing more than that, just an act. He also proves himself to still be a boy by stealing one of his father's best warships, he also tries to take command of his household. By trying to prove he's a man by commanding his mother to go up stairs, and then leave without her knowing about it is immature, because if he were the real man of the house he wouldn't be scared of what his mother or father would do to him. So it's a type of irony of Telemachus' behavior.

Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Telemachus is really just a teenager. There is not anything special about him. He's just a kid who wants to be a man and go rescue his father. He is very immature and selfish, caring about no one but himself. When he decided to go search for his father, he left his poor mother behind to deal with many suitors on her own. All the suitors did was eat and drink and try to woo her, and they often became violent. When Telemachus left, he dealt with the suitors in a very half- assed way and they soon returned. but instead of trying again, he just gave up and went to look for his father. this was very immature of him.

Tuesday, November 9, 2010

Telemachus is still a boy and still maturing. I see this in his lack of control in Ithaca from the suitors and allowing them to take advantage of his fathers absence. It takes a push from Athena for him to decide to step up and either find his father or take his place. One of his most mature moments to me, is when he stands up to the suitors. I also think that his choice to sail away from Ithaca shows him maturing because he is leaving his childhood home and taking the situation ( The suitors and his father not returning) into his own hands.

Telemachus has huge shoes to fill and I don't think he is ready to do so yet. However, I think that he is maturing and will someday be as great and heroic as his father. I think that absence of Odysseus is giving Telemachus an opportunity to grow and prove himself. In a way, I think that Odysseus' captivity is at the perfect time for Telemachus to mature and not be so over shadowed.

Telemachus!

Telemachus, instead of attempting to evict his mother's suitors from his house, merely complains about their presence to the town. When he gets no results from this, he asks Zeus for help, and eventually is persuaded by Athena to look for his father. All of these things show us Telemachus is immature at the beginning of his journey; instead of directly dealing with his issues, he "tattles" on the suitors to the Ithacans, to Zeus, and to his father if he can find him. Telemachus shows that he is maturing slightly before his journey's beginning when he makes sure that his mother doesn't know he is gone until long after he is. This shows responsibility.

Sunday, November 7, 2010

Who is Telemachus?

Telemachus is the classic suppressed teen in the beginning of the Odyssey. He wants to prove that he is a man and that he can be like his father, Odysseus, who is one of the bravest and wisest men in Greece. Since Odysseus is away and presumed dead by most suitors flock to his home in Ithica seeking control of his land, wealth, and power. Telemachus is the rightful heir and he wants what is his, however he is not old enough to take the power so he cannot become the King. He is somewhat selfish and a little immature at this point in the book and he shows it by his actions regarding finding his father. He wants to try and find Odysseus so that he can protect his right of succession which is a slightly inward view, but also understandable because he doesn't want his family's lands to go to someone else. His decision to leave and search for word of his father is a somewhat mature decision because he is taking the problem into his own hands and trying to find a solution.

Saturday, November 6, 2010

Telemachus

In the Odyssey's first book, Telemachus is portrayed as a boy. Up until Athena comes and tells him that his father is still alive, he doesn't take much control of his family and household. But once he learns this information he takes some responsibility for things. He tells the people who work in his home what to do, he tells his mother what she needs to do, and he goes on a voyage, alone, to find his father and bring him back, yet he still isn't quite a man. In the second and third books he grows up more. He starts to turn into his manhood more.

When Telemachus tells the servants to not let his mother know that he is gone until five days after he leaves. This shows that he is still a boy and is still afraid of his mother. Also, the fact that he decides to drop everything in Ithica to try and find his father, could also be taken as a sign of immaturity.

Friday, November 5, 2010

Telemachus

As we first start the Odyssey, we are introduced to Telemachus as a young boy who doesn't want to take full responsibility of his mother, his home and the kingdom that his father left behind.

Telemachus father, Odysseus, was lost at sea for some time, leaving his wife and kingdom in disarray while sutors were coming to Odysseus's great home to court his wife. Telemachus desperatly wants to get rid of these suitors, but he does not have the courage to banish them from the land. Telemachus wants his father to return home or be pronounced dead so that his kingdom can be given a new ruler. Telemachus does not want to take charge of the household.

When Palas Athena comes to Telemachus's home and lays out a quest to find Odysseus, Telemachus is happy someone else is taking charge of his life. Athena sends him to retrieve his father or find out if he has died. Telemachus becomes more mature, because he chooses to face the unknown and find his father. At the same time, Telemachus is leaving his resposibilities to find his father so that he can take care of his household, which makes him more like a young boy.

Thursday, November 4, 2010

Telemachus

When we first meet Telemachus his mother is being courted by suitors looking for the crown of Ithaca. He seems to have enough senses about him to not like this. Unfortunately his fix to this situation is to go to the tows folk and say "I am not strong enough to get them out of my house help me if I were my dad they would be dead" then he tells the suitors "leave now because if my dad shows up, he will kill you and if he doesn't then Zeus will punish you". as expected the suitors laugh and taunt him for this and the towns people don't help. This shows a very childish side of Telemachus. As plan b Telemachus decides to and set sail to find his father to kick the suitors out. This plan shows both a childish and a very manly side of him in that he still needs his father to solve his problem but he is enough of a man to formulate the idea (with Athena's help of course) but he still gets the credit for coming up with it and then executing it.To sum this rant up when Telemachus is at the Spartans temple he gets complemented for talking well beyond his years.

All of these thins show Telemachus changing from a boy into a man throughout the story. I expect we will see more evidence of this as we continue onward.

What is your impression of Telemachus after the first three books of The Odyssey? What does he do in particular that gives you a clear idea of the kin

Telemachus is a well mannered, obedient son. he has been doing what his father told him to since his dad left. he is loving to his mom and misses his father very much. he want s to get out of ithica and experience a greek teenage life. when athena comes and gives him the knowledge that his father is alive. he uses this to create an opportunity to explore the outside world. he is also a selfish boy, he wants to go find his father so the suitors will leave, he can prove himself, and so that he secures his spot as the king of ithica.

Impression of Telemachus

In these first four books of the Odyssey, Telemachus seems to be a determined adolescent who is being thrown into manhood. He is intelligent and an eloquent speaker, but is still learning how to take control of his own future and authority. Telemachus has a lot of dependence on the Gods. He hasn’t managed to bring forth the confidence and power needed to deal directly with whatever issues he is facing. Without encouragement from Athena, he most likely would not have thought to go in search of his missing father, much less demand that the suitors leave. Telemachus is a boy who is entering manhood with support from the Olympians.
What is your impression of Telemachus after the first three books of The Odyssey? What does he do in particular that give you a clear idea of the kind of boy he is?

When the Odyssey starts Telemachas is a boy who has grown up without knowing his father because his father the king has been off fighting the Trojan War. Telemachas quickly becomes the kind of boy who can take charge and do what needs to be done. The first time he starts to act more mature is when he tells his weepy mother, Penelope to go to her room if she doesn’t like the music. Then he wisely recognizes that he is getting help from a god or goddess in the form of his father’s old friend. Also, he is the one who welcomes the visitor to his home which shows that he is actually in charge of the household. Then he takes charge of the bad situation with the suitors who are taking advantage of his family’s hospitality and trying to marry his mother in order to take over his father’s kingdom. He calls an assembly and throws them out. Most importantly, on the advice of Athena Telemachas dedicates himself to go out and try to find out what happened to his father.

Wednesday, November 3, 2010

Who is man or boy?

I basically thinkthat he is a boy trying to grow up. i think he is trying to figure out who he is and who he is going to be, But hes struggling. even sense infancy he never had a father to look up to. that is why he is so protective over his mother. she raised him alone and protected him from reality.
so in conclusion i think that he is just confused from the transition between childhood and manhood.
-Taylor Vander Wolk

Blog Question

Telemachus is a boy who has started maturing, but is not quite an adult. He is devoted to finding his father, and helping his mother. He is too immature and weak to know how to help keep his mother's land from the suitors. He is smart, but he can get angry sometimes. His travelling with Athena taught him to be responsible. Athena taught him to be more sure about himself, and this helps him keep the suitors away from his mother and her land. He is strong, but his skills and talents cannot match his father's abilities. Telemachus is just a boy who is trying to keep his family safe and together.

Telemachus is one who is still maturing. He is smart and sometimes has a temper. He was very young when his father left for Troy when the Odyssey begins. He is dedicated to his mother and is determined to find his father. One of the obstacles he has to face is protecting his family from the suitors. This shows he is loyal to his family constantly driven. Although Telemachus has these characteristics, he still cannot match his father’s talent and skills. He is getting there though. Meeting and being with Athena taught him responsibility, how to take control and helps him confront the suitors. Fortunately for him, he had the chance to learn these things before confronting the challenges.

What is your impression of Telemachus after the first three books of The Odyssey? What does he do in particular that gives you a clear idea of the kin

Telemachus is a boy who is beginning to gain the knowledge needed to become a man. He is completely devoted to his mother and his father's land, but he is too immature and weak to know exactly how to protect his mother and the land from the suitors. He knows this, and therefor is unsure of his abilities.Throughout the book he becomes more mature and sure of himself, so it helps him gain the courage to protect his family. Telemachus is a boy who is tying to figure out how to make his father proud and be loyal to his family, he is just unsure of himself at this time.